Wednesday, March 29, 2023

Fascism is Heroarchy

The problem with Umberto Eco’s attempt to reconstruct a hypothetical Ur Fascism is that the actual Ur Texts of Fascism were never lost but were in fact preserved and celebrated, and Eco’s guess about what shared traits of the many 20s and 30s movements called Fascist were key to identifying it were in fact wrong.

The actual Ur Text of Fascism was the Heroarchy philosophy of Thomas Carlyle, I’m not the first to suggest this by any means, many Nazis during the 30s in both Germany and Britain saw the connection at the time.  But I feel there are lessons to be learned from this connection.


Now I have in the past made a big deal out of distinguishing Nazism from Fascism, and I still believe the differences do matter, but learning to understand how much Carlyle is the key has helped me to accept that they are sibling or cousin ideologies and Carlyle is their Grandfather.

Thomas Carlyle is most famous for being the author of the Great Man Theory of History.  A theory of history generally discredited today even though its influence on pop history and historical fiction still persists.  That theory is itself part of Fascist ideology, Fascism at its core is about trying to identify the right Great Men of the present to put in power and then blindly follow.  But Carlyle didn’t talk about only that subject, his political philosophy he literally called Heroarchy, essentially a type of Monarchism but that favored Meritocracy rather than the standard familial inheritance of traditional Feudalism.  And he was openly Racist and Antisemitic with even hints of Marcionism. 


During his own lifetime his writings and ideas were very popular not just within his own country of England but also in Germany and across the Atlantic in the former colonies, especially in The South.  Mussolini and the other founders of Italian Fascism may have been less inclined to explicitly cite Carlyle than their cousins in countries speaking Germanic languages.  Georges Sorel’s philosophy is an important middle man in understanding how Hero Worship gave birth to Fascist movements in Romance Language countries, alongside Integralism, and a key middle man between him and Carlyle is William James. Ironically Sorel himself ultimately disapproved of Fascism and praised the Bolsheviks instead.


Fascism and Liberalism both value Meritocracy but with different ideas on how that Merit ought to be determined and measured, the Left needs to reject Meritocracy altogether.  Understanding the role of Heroarchy in Fascist ideology also helps us understand why there is disagreement about if Fascism is Individualist or Collectivist.  You see while Fascism represents the Far Right on most specific policy issues relevant to the modern world, when it comes to the broad philosophical Individualism vs Collectivism dichotomy Fascism places itself in the center as the compromise, they believe the State needs all the people to be a single Body Politic, but they also believe those Great Men need to rise up to be the Heads of that Body. Modern critiques of the Great Man Theory often treat it is an individualist error but Carlyle himself was no fan individualism, not any Liberal understanding of it anyway.


CulturedThug is the name of a former YouTuber who was somewhat prominent in the AltRight as a self described Fascist, and unlike a lot of other self described Fascists who I don’t think actually understand the word any better than those using it as a generic insult, CulturedThug is very well read, if I had to give anyone the dubious distinction of being the contemporary Philosopher of Fascism it would be him.  I bring him up here mainly because I watched a video once where he lists his favorite movies, now most of them he did not explicitly claim to like because he saw them as Fascist movies that spoke to him as a Fascist, but the top 3 he did, and they were (I may be misremembering the exact order) the 2002 film Hero starring Jet Li, Conan The Barbarian starring Arnold Swarzenegger, and John Boorman’s Excalibur.  All three definitely are in different ways modern manifestations of the kind of Great Man Hero Myths that Thomas Carylyle fixated on, and so them being the kinds of movies to speak to modern Fascists shows fetishization of that kind of Hero Myth is still at the heart of Fascist identity.

This is not to say that all stories about Heroes are inherently Fascist whether they were intended to be or not, a lot of this is tied to specific ideas about what makes a Hero that overlap a lot with Toxic Masculinity and fetishization of the Heroic Sacrifice.  But they are amorphous enough that you can create a fairly Fascist compatible Hero Myth even while trying to be Leftist or succeeding in getting lots of Leftists to praise the story you wrote. The etymology of the word Hero simply means Defender or Protector, that obviously is objectively good, it's the stuff people like Carlyle wrapped up into the concept that is the problem.


In general I feel Anime Culture has very different ideas about what makes a Hero that I feel allows most Anime to be safer from these issues, especially when I look at how many of my favorites place so much emphasis on rejecting the necessity of Sacrifice.  And yet there are exceptions, everything I’ve said above in this post only adds to the reasons to be concerned about shows like Attack on Titan and Gate.  But actually digging into this Carlyle as the root of Fascism thesis has caused me to become self reflective about some characters and sequences I’ve liked in shows not usually thought of as being part of the Fascism in Anime discussion.

First is the infamous Grail Dialogue which is episode 11 of Fate/Zero. Iskandar is a very popular character in the fandom, you’ll be hard pressed to find a YT video essay on this Dialogue that doesn’t take the position that he “won” the debate, that his argument on what makes a good King is vindicated as the correct one.  Now my personal view is that the most correct position is the hypothetical fourth left unrepresented.  But my point here is that Iskandar’s position when you really break it down is Heroarchy, it is essentially Fascist ideology boiled down to its simplest expression, but because he doesn’t preach it in a German accent wearing an SS Uniform most viewers don't notice and many were actually swayed by it.


And the sad thing is even my favorite Anime Genre to refer to as Antithetical to everything wrong with western ideas of Heroism is not immune.  Yuki Yuna Is A Hero I have referred to as my favorite Magical Girl Anime in the past, and I still love the show.  But I’ve come to realize a lot of what happens in this saga is essentially the Stab-in-the-Back-Myth applied to Mahou Shoujo.  Any story so built around your Heroes Sacrificing everything for society yet being constantly betrayed by that society should always raise a red flag.  Now there are certain Anti-Fascist ways to read the story even when you're aware of this connection, but I felt it was important to bring up.

However the real reason I think it’s important to talk about this relationship between Fascism and Hero Myth is because it helps explain how a story can knowingly or not teach or reinforce Fascistic ideas in the story it tells with it’s Heroes even while draping it’s Villains in the cosmetic iconography of certain past specific Fascist regimes, or even explicitly identifying them with one.  You see in modern popular fiction the Nazis have been semi-disconnected from the original political project of the NSDAP.  Both actual Nazis and Space Nazis are in the popular imagination now just new Dragons to be slain by modern Heroes in making modern Hero Myths.  Sometimes they are even literally hoarding Gold just like Fafnir.


That’s my issue with the discourse surrounding the song Be Prepared in The Lion King, that film gets to be considered Anti-Fascist by default because Triumph of The Will is referenced during the villain song.  But the problem is this is a film where the villain is a queer coded “degenerate” member of the ruling class colluding with the foreigners who don’t belong in the kingdom, it’s a story where the villains upset the natural order of things but putting the rightful King back on the throne magically restores everything.  It is exactly the kind of Hero Myth that Fascists love. Basically if you're gonna have the main villain be a different "race" from most of their minions, it's really messed up to then call them Nazis since you're the one who just did a Nazi propaganda trope.


Even Casablanca I think needs to be criticized more, this is a movie where the actual reasons people today consider the Nazis uniquely Evil aren’t relevant at all.  As far as this film is concerned the Nazis main sin was invading and taking over other countries, where the principal Refugee in the story isn’t depicted as any kind of marginalized person but a White Man who simply opposes them because of what he believes in, those beliefs themselves are not explored in depth either.  But if that’s why the Nazis are bad then the very setting of the film undermines any notion that the French have moral superiority, Casablanca was a French colony the actual indigenous people of which are not represented in the film.  There’s actually something deeply wrong with lionizing a defiant display of Patriotic French Resistance on soil the French themselves stole.


And yes all this also applies to Star Wars as well, after all Star Wars has become so married to the Monomyth thesis of Joseph Campbell, and modern criticism of Campbell has its roots in how much Campbell’s ideas also derived from Carlyle. Modern Internet Neoreactionaries have always seen themselves in the Rebels and their bad understanding of Socialism in The Empire, and I’ve already talked about why they aren't without good reason to do so.


Even in Andor which so many Breadtubers now think is so special, so good even compared to other Star Wars at being Anti-Fascist and Anti-Capitalist.  In episode 10 Luthen the character played by Stellen Skarsgard gives a speech to his informant that everyone has been simping for as one of the best Anti-Fascist Speeches of all time.  But to me it’s exactly that kind of monologue that should raise a red flag. It is a part of the understanding of the Heroic Sacrifice in the minds of people like CulturedThug that it’s sometimes your conscience, your very morality that has to be sacrificed.  And no I’m not against acknowledging that a resistance movement may have to do some morally gray things, that you can’t change the world without getting your hands dirty, but justify it with normal utilitarian arguments rather then preaching a Sermon about how you’re sacrificing your soul for the salvation of the future.


It has always been my position that Star Wars stories set after ROTJ are more interesting when they deal with the political difficulties of building a New Republic in the aftermath of the War.  But as I look at where Disney SW has been going in it's post ROTJ stories, it seems like it's usually the Soldiers of the Rebellion who are the ones who are right and the Politicians should have listened to them.  And that demilitarizing so soon was one of the big mistakes.  And maybe the old EU timeline was no different, I'm no expert on it.

The current backlash to Harry Potter has helped open people’s eyes on this, the Slytherin/Voldemort ideology is coded as being Nazi like, yet the text literally contains Nazi propaganda in its depiction of the Goblins.


But before that and even still to an extent Breadtubers are only prepared to process the idea that a story could have Nazi villains but be counterproductive to actually opposing Fascist ideology when the problem was the villains being too cool.  And that was the basis of the freak out a lot of Leftists in the Anime Community had over Dies Irae in 2017, that yeah the Nazis may be villains but they’re cool sexy Bishonen villains who the Fujoshi are gonna turn into Ernst Rohms in their Doujins.


I’m not sure what I think about Dies Irae, I didn’t feel like I understood what it was trying to say when I watched it and now I don’t properly remember all of it, and fans of the VN hated the Anime as an adaptation to begin with, I’m not gonna play the VN I don’t even play the VNs of Anime I actually liked a lot more than this.  But there were moments in there that as I recall them now make me wonder if maybe it was trying to be self aware about the very issue I’ve been talking about, acknowledging that these Nazis fetishize that very kind of story this genre of fiction has its roots in and was perhaps trying to say something about that.  Or maybe it was just pretentious lampshade hanging, IDK someone who understands the original VN will have to answer that.


Update April 2nd: I've continued this train of thought a bit on my other Blog.

https://solascripturachristianliberty.blogspot.com/2023/04/plato-and-fascism.html


Update April 5th: I started a Thread about this on a Message board where you can see me discus the matter further.

https://sfdebris.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=7352


Update May 27th: Thing about this post is that it was never meant to stand alone, I'm hoping people will look into the already existing arguments for the connection between Carlyle and Fascism as well as knowing something about the Caligari to Hitler thesis and Starship Troopers discourse and criticism of Joseph Campbell.  I simply wanted to add my two cents to that already existing conversion and then use it to talk about a few Anime and some Star Wars.


I definitely made a mistake in the Yuki Yuna section.  Citing the stab-in-the-back myth specifically doesn't hold up because that whole thing is about who to blame for losing a war when the Heroes in YuYuYu didn't lose, they Won pretty unambiguously.  So the situation is more like Italy who was on the winning side of WWI but didn't get what they were promised by the Allies so felt rather screwed over, especially the Veterans.


My prior post on Gate ultimately doesn't talk about the scene that is most actually what I'm talking about in this post.  The most Fascist scene in Gate is the Diet scene, where that whole storyline is about demonizing the Civilian Government for daring to question the Military.


Update August: I recently rewatched a bunch of the Anime Tanya The Evil and it certainly reminds me of aspects of this.  As does my recent looking into the Openly Fascist sympathies of The American Legion during the 1920s.


I originally didn't want to actually link to the video of CulturedThug talking about his favorite movies, but the truth is the context of exactly what he says in it is important, that's my point more so then the films themselves.  So here it is.  Again only the top three does he explicitly say are Fascist movies in his view, but what he says about one or two others also speaks to the Heroarchy mindset.  The list also includes some of the usual suspects of movies Fascists like that Leftists say the Fascists don't understand.


However I don't think the "the movie actually condemning the very thing Reactionaries like about it" thesis works for those top 3.  Hero was literally State Sponsored by a very authoritarian State and Excalibur is Arthurian Legend taken at face value.  With Conan an Anti-Fascist fan could try to say it's villain is who actually represents Fascism, but that just brings us back to Nazi Villain problem.

Sunday, March 26, 2023

Early 2000s Anime revival project

So one of my mission statements for 2023 was to play a role in sparking the overdue 20 Nostalgia cycle revival for early 2000s Anime.  An agenda I started talking about in late 2022.

And I have indeed spent a good deal of the first three months of the year rewatching, finishing or watching for the first time various early 2000s shows, Noir, Madlax, El Cazador De La Brujha, Witch Hunter Robin, Burst Angel, Pretear and even the dreaded Elfen Lied.  

But I've unfortunately limited most of my talking about those shows as I watched them to my Mastadon account,   When I joined Mastadon it felt like it had a lot momentum behind it to potentially become a real competitor to Twitter, but it seems like that hype has died down.    However it's format still feels better to me to express thoughts that are too long for a Tweet but also not fleshed out enough to be worthy of a Blog post yet.

Each of those I listed I enjoyed, but I can't exactly recommend them all equally or in the same way.

Noir is the only one that's a true 10/10 Masterpiece, even it may not appeal to everyone but I feel you'd have to be pretty biased against it to not at least respect it.

Madlax, El Cazador and Burst Angel are great shows to recommend for when you just want to remember how wild Anime of this era could be in a way you don't see anymore.  They are each in my view undeniably Fun if you aren't a critic with a chip on your shoulder constantly trying to outthink them.

Witch Hunter Robin is as I've said before a very atypical Anime on many levels, if you're into the idea of a show with a standard Police Procedural format but with Supernatural elements then this is the Anime I'd recommend.

Pretear is I feel another essential overlooked piece in the puzzle that is the history of the Magical Girl Genre.  My last post about it on this blog focused on some criticism I had but I still love it and feel everyone presenting themselves as an expert on or superfan of this genre who hasn't seen it yet needs to remedy that ASAP.

Elfen Lied is something I may need to devote an entire post to in the future.

These obviously aren't the only Anime I've been watching.  I've been keeping up with currently airing Anime and watched some other modern shows, and after becoming a fan of Tubi watching on it both the Trigger film Hells and the movie Napping Princess.

And of course I've spent a lot of my spare time watching and rewatching scattered Detective Conan episodes from all over it's run.  Of course that actually overlaps with the Early 2000s project.  And I've decided to adjust my initial statement on exactly what parts of Detective Conan count as Early 2000s in context of my willing to be a bit creative in counting stuff as early 2000s when they're chronological really late 90s stuff that's looking forward or mid to late 00s stuff that feel like throwbacks.

I'm going to informally declare that in terms of episodes of the main series Early 00s Detective Conan/Case Closed begins right after what Fnumiation dubbed stops (Funimation did dub further with their movies) as well as right after what you can watch on Filmrise and Cruncyhroll's "season 1".  Those first 123 episodes are true 90s Detective Conan.  Episode 124 through most of the 300s are early 2000s Detective Conan as well as movies 3-9 the first half of the numbered OVAs and the Time Travel of the Silver Sky TV special which was a sorta recap episode to promote both the 8th movie and episode 356.

Unfortunately none of that era of Detective Conan is legally streaming anywhere which makes it hard to properly recommend.

I do intend to continue this mission, and in the future note it on this blog more.  There is plenty more out there to explore, and I want to give rewatches to some of the early 00s show I'd discovered last year that inspired me to do this in the first place, principally Rumbling Hearts and Comic Party, specifically I want to rewatch them soon after giving a proper rewatch to To Heart.

I have my DVDs of To Heart and Comic Party currently sitting next to my Nanoha DVDs, Nanoha's first two seasons are another good example of Mid 00s technically but feeling like they have some of the early 00s spirit still.

Tuesday, March 21, 2023

Detective Conan is actually pretty easy to get into.

Detective Conan or Case Closed as it's still called when officially Localized into English, is one of the Anime that is thought impenetrable to potential new fans because it has too many episodes.  But Detective Conan is actually like western Superhero Comics in that you can pretty much jump in at any point and when important things happen the gist of the context will be provided.  

In general I disagree with concerns about Continuity Lock Out, if I were interested in a show like Naruto or One Piece genre wise I could navigate them just fine.  Again I go back to how the first episode of Buffy I watched was This Year's Girl, jumping in the middle of something not fully understanding it just makes me want to learn more if what I was entertained me.

What makes Detective Conan more like Western Comics, (or at least how Western Comics used to be in the 90s and 00s) then other Manga/Anime is the more fluid nature of what it even means to say the show has a status quo.

With One Piece certain people think saying everything that happens equally matters is somehow the incentive to watch all of it, when the truth is what helped me breeze through Detective Conan was knowing I don't actually have to watch all of it.

Now with Detective Conan you can compare a one off episode from earlier this year to a one off episode form the single digits that aired in 96 and get the impression that the Status Quo hasn't changed at all.  But that's because that status quo is what the protagonist is seeking to preserve until he defeats the main enemy.  The Black Organization storyline has made significant progress, the thing is Conan is playing the long game in that storyline.

There is an interesting scene in season 1 of The Americans where one character talks about how Spies aren't concerned with catching the enemy but keeping everyone right where they are.  When Detective Conan pivots to the main storyline it's actually essentially an Espionage show and better at it then any James Bond movie has ever been, because Kudo is playing the long game.

Meanwhile Detective Conan is always introducing new characters with many of the most popular not even being there yet in the first 100.  And they actually made Ran and Shinichi officially a couple in the early 900s.

Even it's one off filler episodes have variety, Conan himself is the only character guaranteed to appear in every episode.

If you're interested in Detective/Mystery stories as a genre at all I really feel Detective Conan is the modern pinnacle of that genre.  You can start with what's on Tubi.TV or the classic episodes on Filmrise/Freevee or what's on Cruncyhroll.  A large percentage of the show isn't on any official streaming site but those are still not that hard to find.

Thursday, March 16, 2023

Case Closed continues on Tubi

First I decided to check and indeed searching Detective Conan on Tubi.TV won't work, you have to search Case Closed specifically.  Of course for people who would watch Tubi using the same device they are reading this blog on I could just link you directly.

Case Closed Dubbed
Case Closed Subbed

But I'd recommend using an App to watch it on your TV if you have one that plays Apps, Tubi is a Free one.

Dubbed now has in addition to the 20 episodes I talked about last time 985-1002 and 1004-1005.  The skipping of 1003 is random and feels like a mistake.  The Subbed page does have 1003 and more episodes as well going up 1014.

For some reason it's the first few episodes in each batch where I feel some of the one off character acting sounds odd, and I'm starting to wonder if it's really just my ears struggling to adjust to the new cast each time.  It turns out only a few characters are actually the same as the BangZoom Dub of the movies, Conan, Ran and maybe Kogoro, while the Detective Boys and Sonoko are definitely recast and possibly more.  Considering Sonoko is my favorite it's impressive that I got used to her new actress so quickly, I think I may even prefer her to the BangZoom voice, still difficult to beat Laura Bailey however.

988 and 992 are Sonoko Deduction Queen episodes and I guess I just feel bad for the BangZoom actress never getting to do one of these since it never happens in the movies.  At any rate both these episodes are pretty cool.

But perhaps the best episodes Dubbed on Tubi so far are 993-995 Makoto Kyogoku the Understudy.  It's the Dub debut in any cast for Sera Masumi and a pretty perfect episode to introduce her with.  Makoto's character is also perhaps better represented here then in the Blue Sapphire movie.  The episode has an isolated case that's interesting but happens do a decent amount of Lore refreshing that I think makes it a good set of episodes for newbies.  And also plenty of moments that are just plain fun.

1000-1001 is actually a remake of an early case, episode 11 on Crunchyroll and Filmrise and 11-12 in the Funimation Dub.  It's a stand alone case plot-wise but story wise is important to why saving the lives of even the culprits is important to Conan.  But it has a potentially problematic element that makes my feelings towards it mixed.  At any rate I really don't consider this remake the optimal viewing experience anyway, the tone and mood of this story really is better served by Retro Conan's artstyle.

1002 is the lead in episode for The Scarlet Bullet.  How these lead in episodes actually relate to the film in question is usually pretty abstract, they are by no means necessary.  Part of why I think a mistake was made is that even before these finally went up I was expecting that 1002 might be skipped for the purpose of saving it for being a bonus feature when Scarlet Bullet finally gets an English BluRay release.  I would probably like this episode more if I wasn't as politically informed as I am, this is practically a PSA episode about littering that really plays into the Liberal individualizing of the issue.

As of writing this I haven't watched the Dub for episodes 1004-1005 yet.  You see they are the second and third parts of a three parter which makes the skipping of 1003 even more bizarre.  I happen to have seen this 3 parter Subbed already and it is a good case, and from the next episode preview it sounds like they cast Mr Eypatch Hitler-Stach well.  So I'm gonna give them time to fix the 1003 issue.

Update: 1003 was added after to long, so I've now rewatched the whole three parter Dubbed and it holds up, has some cool lines.

Update March 30th: On the 29th nine new episodes went up Dubbed on Tubi and I decided to just add to this post rather then make a new one.

Episode 1009 is a fun Detective Boys episode.  1010 is a unique episode that I found pretty fun, and it;s another appearance of Danny's.

1011-112 is pretty interesting.  It's the first Columbo type Case in these Tubi Dubbed episodes so far, and the Dub debuts of both the Kindergarden Teachers and Yamamura the Gunma inspector.  I was actually suprised how well Yamamura's voice turned out, he fits the character perfectly.

1013 is a really compelling episode.

Thursday, March 9, 2023

Pretear is great but does have flaws

I decided to change my MAL rating for Pretear to a 9.  

I had given it a 10 partly because it was almost a rule in my head that anything that makes me Cry is a automatic 10 unless some major problem counteracts it.  But then I decided Fuuka doesn't get a 10 simply for some gratuitous Fanservice in the first two and a half episodes.

I think it's important people understand the difference between what personally moves them the most and what's actually the best at even following their own subjective standards of quality.  And my thing about an automatic 10 for making me cry was a failure to practice what I preach on that, (especially since not everything I give a 10 makes my cry).  Robotics;Notes I definitely feel still deserves it's 10/10, Umineko will stay as is till I can give it a rewatch.

Now lowering something to a 9 is not that big a change, even though I give high scores more generously then most I do take the words MAL puts next to those scores seriously, stuff I truly don't like simply tends to not get rated at all since I rarely complete them.  Make no mistake even my 8s are things I'll defend to the death agaisnt anyone saying they're bad, and even the 7s and 6s I'd say are worth watching if I was asked about them.  When I give something a 9 it means it should be essential viewing at least for it's genre.

Pretear is an adaptation of a Manga, and like the prior Shoujo Magical Girl Warrior Manga that Junichi Satou was heavily involved in adapting to Animation some significant changes were made, even though I haven't read it I know a bit about the changes from looking into it.  I'm sure the Manga works well enough as a Manga but in terms of why Pretear moves me so much it's very heavily tied to the Anime's changes, the story told with Mawata is the Heart of it.

But the thing is those changes make the Snow White references, which includes the show's full title, come off way more random, when the Step Mother is no longer even kind of an antagonist the analogy just doesn't hold up anymore not even as a subversion of anything.  Now it wouldn't be the only Anime that has been given a 10/10 by someone who can't justify why it's named what it is, however the show still throwing the wake up kiss in at the very end feels like it's there only to justify the title.  Honestly in the Anime version a Cinderella analogy makes more sense.  Fortunately the word Pretear itself isn't a Snow White reference as far as I can tell and that's generally what we shorten it to.

This is also a perfect example of a single cour show that could have been so much better as two cour, as is there wasn't time to give each Knight a spotlight episode and since only two really matter to the main plot the rest kind of come off as just there.  Maybe a full 26 episodes would be difficult to justify, perhaps it should have been one of those rare 22 episode shows.

That's it really, I don't let my nitpicks about the Dub effect the score since that's Localization not the original product, and I love a lot about the Dub, Luci Christian is always fantastic and Mireille proves why she's the best Ojousama.  But the performance that really blows me away is Mandy Clark as Mawata, I was shocked to learn she hasn't been in a lot of Anime Dubs, her performance here may be the most underrated and unappreciated in all of Anime Dubbing. 

Saturday, March 4, 2023

What does "Mainstream" even mean anymore?

Once again I got into arguments on Twitter with people who think Anime is mainstream now.  Everything I said in the post over a year ago still stands.
But obviously I have more to say so I'm making another post on it.

And again the argument that baffles me the most is people thinking the mere existence of Anime or Manga being sold at Walmart proves it's mainstream.  They don't get how something can be Niche but still sold in mainstream stores, Walmart's whole brand is based on the illusion that you can buy anything there, that you'll never need to go anywhere else.  I'm pretty sure my brother purchased Insane Clown Posse CDs there back in the day.

And it's not even every Walmart, my local Walmart has no Manga and an increasingly shrinking Anime section.  They just assume if their Walmart has it then it must be standard.  

The Internet has always facilitated Echo Chambers, but Social Media has allowed people to be in one while thinking they're not.  When you primarily talked with other Anime fans on old Message Boards or Yahoo Groups you also knew this was not the whole of society.  But now we talk with other Anime fans on the same website where we learn what new policy the United States President has announced.  Most people on Twitter actively avoid the people with Anime Avatars, so all the Anime Avatars mostly only interact with other Anime Avatars and trick themselves into thinking non Anime Avatars are going extinct.

I of course inevitably get the accusation that I'm arguing this because I don't want it to be mainstream, that I'm some kind of modern hipster.  I'm actually actively trying to get more people into the Anime that I like, I recommend shows to the people I know offline, I leave comments on non Anime YouTube videos recommending Anime that's relevant to whatever the topic was.  And that may be exactly why I'm acutely aware of how not Mainstream Anime still is.  If Anime were indeed now just as normal a medium of entertainment as regular Movies and TV shows I wouldn't have soo much trouble getting people who specialize in talking about Horror as a Genre to watch what is nearly universally considered the best work of Horror in it's medium.

The thing is the nature of the Internet has made it more difficult to tell the difference between what indeed everyone is into now or just all the people in your circle.  And I'm starting to realize some of these people who think Anime is mainstream now don't even think of "Mainstream" and "Niche" as mutually exclusive. 

And yes to an extent everything is Niche in that people hyper into it specifically will always be Niche, even with Star Wars it's still Niche to have actually read more then a handful of the old EU Novels, or maybe even to have read any.

And maybe that's my mistake, arguing that Anime isn't Mainstream while still assuming Superheroes and Star Wars do qualify as mainstream now, by acting like regular old Nerds are totally the élite ruling class now.  Everyone loves MCU movies, but being the Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons who has opinions on how things were changed from the Comics will still get you mocked.

The difference is in how big and influential a percentage those hardcore fans are of the total viewership.  It used be if a Superhero movie was hated by most Comic Readers it would ultimately be considered a mainstream failure too because they were still most of the long term investment, they were still the vanguard who's opinions those less Nerdy would consider in deciding if something is worth watching, but now pleasing them has become less necessary.

People who wanted Modok to be taken seriously are considered joyless manchildren by the vast majority of people who are interested in seeing Ant-Man 3.  Netflix' Cowboy Bebop for all it's "hype" was still mostly watched by the people who care enough about the Original to be offended that parts of it weren't taken as seriously as they wanted.  Some of the same people who hated Netflix Bebop may also like Modok because they're Anime Fans who only recently started casually liking MCU movies like Trixie The Golden Witch.

I'm neither of those groups, I can enjoy both the silly and the serious versions of the things I care about. But that's not the point of what I'm arguing here.

And even Bebop is more mainstream then most Anime because for a certain generation there are a lot of people who've only seen a few Anime that put Bebop in that few.

Maybe not all the people who think Anime is Mainstream now are denying that those particularly into it still get socially stigmatized for it, but some definitely have.