Sunday, February 26, 2023

Detective Conan movies

This may be one of the more poorly structured posts on this blog, I just have some thoughts about them I've been wanting to write down.

A lot of them are relevant to the recuring theme of this blog that we need to start paying as much attention to Anime Writers as we do Directors.  Because for the most part the Detective Conan movies have been at their best when Kazunari Kouchi was the Screenwriter.  

But make no mistake I find value in every single Detective Conan movie, so even the ones I shall be the hardest on in this post have good scenes in them, scenes worth watching once you're already a fan of these characters.

I made some recommendations back when I hadn't seen all of them yet.

I currently personally divide the Detective Conan movies into 4 eras chronologically.

Era 1 is movies 1-6: These were the ones Aniamted using Traditional Animation before the switch to Digital, and they are the ones that were part of the old Funimation Case Closed Dub, but that Dub is out of print and not officially streaming anywhere, so the most legal way to watch them is to find and buy old DVDs which are usually not cheap or guarantied to work properly.  Of these 6 the last of them was the only one not written by Kouchi and it's my least favorite of all the movies so far.

Era 2 is movies 7-18:  During this era you'll see the artstyle/character designs evolve from the Retro look of the early movies to the shiny modern Anime look they have now.  Parallel to that you'll see how the approach to how they are written slowly changes to increasingly revolve more around action and explosions.  But as long as Kouchi was writing most of them still could not be accused of being dumb action movies.  He wrote all but 3 movies of this era.  However movie 18 The Dimensional Sniper was his last, he passed away a couple years later.

Movie 7 was the last movie with the Director of the original 6 and it was a decent send off for him.  I know some consider movie 9 one of the best and the end of the golden age, I also enjoyed it.

But it's also during this era that they slowly improved at making movies without Kouchi.  I know for purely Nostalgia reasons some Detective Conan fans prefer movie 6 to anything after 9 whether Kouchi wrote it or not.  Movie 6 was written by an acclaimed mystery writer who'd never actually written a Screenplay before, and in my opinion it shows, it has good character scenes early on before the plot really kicks into motion but once that happens it quickly loses me when I try to rewatch it.

Movie 10 definitely feels instantly inferior to the 3 that preceded it, but at least the good character scenes are spread out more.  Movie 11 is probably my favorite non Kouchi film so far, it was like Pokémon movie 9 very clearly a product of the Pirates of the Caribbean zeitgeist, and like that Pokémon movie it's really fun.

Movie 12 has fun with the show's recurring gag of Conan being tone deaf, and makes thematically great use of Amazing Grace.  Movie 14 if fun for having Kaitou Kid stuff and being basically Conan as a Die Hard movie. Movie 15 might by others be considered the first modern Detective Conan film, for better and for worse.

If I had to designate a least favorite of the films written by Kouchi it'd be movie 16 the Eleventh Striker, in fact I'd even rank it below movie 17 another non Kouchi film.  Movie 17 would have been a lot better if they didn't feel the need to throw a random murder in and just kept the focus on Conan trying to catch an enemy spy.

Movie 18 was a great swan song for Kazunari Kouchi, it was also the first movie featuring certain recurring characters from the show and is probably in my opinion the best of this era.  I kind of want it to be the next movie Dubbed but more recent ones will probably be prioritized.

Era 3 is movies 19-23: These are currently exactly the movies dubbed by BangZone for DiscoTech and thus the only movies easy to watch legally, you can even rent them on Amazon Prime which is how I first watched them.  These movie were mostly the start of my Detective Conan experience, they were what got me into the franchise and so they certainly are fun movies that do capture the gist of Conan's appeal in an accessible way.  But I fear that to people more in general difficult to impress then I am they might not be the best first impression.  This is the weakest era of Conan films so far.

Comparing movie 13 The Raven Chaser to movie 20 The Darkest Nightmare is interesting.  This won't be true anymore soon once movie 26 is out, but for now these are the only movies featuring the character of Vermouth, and comparing them can be an interesting study in quantity vs quality.  If you did the math I'm pretty you'd find Vermouth has more screen time in Darkest Nightmare, but she doesn't do any of the things she's known for, any of what a Vermouth fan would want to see, she doesn't disguise herself as anyone or interact with Conan.  In Raven Chaser she is mostly just prominent in one sequence but she does all of that and it made a perfect Big Screen debut for the character.
 
Era 4 is movies 24-present:  Only two are out already, and the third we Americans who need Subs probably won't be able to see till Fall.  Both movies feel like an instant improvement over era 3, like they're finally making an effort to recapture what made the older movies good.  I wish Discotech and BangZoom would hurry and Dub these or Dimensional Sniper so I could have something better for a first impression easily accessible to recommend.

Kazunari Kouchi also wrote a number of episodes of the series though I hadn't bothered to check what they were when I first wrote everything above. Two of those 5 are one offs from the first 123 I recommended in the prior post of this Blog were his, The Mystery Weapon Murder Case and The Kamen Yaiba Murder Case, plenty of the others he wrote during that era seem to be memorable ones as well, his first was episode 14 (15 in the Funimation Dub), beyond that early era though his episodes are mostly ones even I haven't seen yet (okay the DetectiveConanWorld Wiki list his first as 14 but ANN says he also wrote 4 and 8-9, if he indeed wrote both 9 and 19 then that's both of the show's first two Columbo episodes).  He also wrote all of the first 12 numbered OVAs, I don't recall if there even are more OVAs beyond them.

It's interesting because most of these ongoing kids shows with annual mostly non Canon movies are written by the same writer as the lead writer of the show, Takeshi Shudo wrote the first 3 Pokémon movies, Tomita and Enokido did the Sailor Moon movies.  But Kouchi seems to have been more of an every once and a while writer.

It's interesting that movies 10 and 11 are so apart in quality when they have the same writer, Hiroshi Kashiwabara.  Movies 10 is I think one who's biggest mistake was biteing off more then it can chew, the best Conan movies feel like they could have been extra long episodes of the show.  But something else fun about movie 11 is it feels like it could have been a Lupin III movie, and this writer's main claim to fame outside of Conan is writing 12 of the annual Lupin TV movies, including the first few of them directed by Dezaki. Maybe the Lupin/Conan crossovers would have turned out better if he wrote them.

On the show Hirosh is the credited Anime writer for the first two episodes interestingly, but was by no means regularly writing the key plot episodes.  He doesn't get to write any Anime originals till right after the Funimation Dub and what's on Filmrise stops.  And he only has one case on Crunchyroll 804-805 which I think I haven't seen yet.

Friday, February 17, 2023

Case Closed/Detective Conan finally has some new Dubbed Content

20 Episodes have been dropped on Tubi.TV where they can be watched for Free with Ads even without making an account.  They are episodes 965-984.

This wasn't announced in advance, it just happened, the main cast are the same Voice Actors from the BangZoom Dubs for a number of 2010s movies and some specials.

I'm excited to finally have some accessible Detective Conan content to recommend.  I can't quite recommend all 20 of these episodes equally, a few in addition to being more forgettable plots also have some disappointing acting from the one off characters.

Initially it was only the first 10, of those 971-974 is an interesting 4 parter and the best of those 10 which are all muliti parters.

The best one off episodes from this batch are 978-980, any of those three could make a neat first impression of the show.  

984-985 is a Kaitou Kid case featuring some of the regional recurring characters that is pretty good.

Also make sure to watch the post-credit bonus scenes, Anime was actually doing this way before Marvel made it popular.

These aren't the only episodes of the Series being legally Streamed, but they are the only ones Dubbed.  Tubi only has these Dubs, if you want to watch the same episodes Subbed you'll have to go to Crunchyroll, I don't recall if they allow ad supported free streaming for anything anymore.  But there they don't have the whole show either, 124-753 are not on any official streaming site in any form.

Fortunately the first 123 episodes are streaming Subbed on an equally Free app, Filmrise, but you have to search specially for "Case Closed", searching "Detective Conan" won't bring up results (I didn't even try searching "Detective Conan" on Tubi). 

These are the same episodes that were Dubbed by Funimation but the episode numbers are different because of the longer event episodes being broken up for international release making the total 130.  That Dub is discontinued and out of print but you can still buy DVDs from time to time however they're usually expensive, there are 5 "seasons" to what that Dub covered and how it was released which seem to be the same seasons as on Filmrise (all of this era is one season on Cruncyhroll) plus the first 6 movies, it was also officially only named Case Closed.

For going through the early days of Detective Conan I recommend this Important Episode list to help you know which episodes arguably aren't filler and why.
[However one flaw of this list is it gets when the movies came out wrong.]

The DeteciveConanWorld Website is also useful.

But I do also like Detective Conan filler/one offs as well, I above recommended 3 from this new Tubi batch.  There are about 5 from that early era that I consider personal favorites but most are fun.

The Mystery Weapon Murder Case episode 53 on Crunchyroll, episode 25 of season 2 on Filmrise, and episode 55 of the Funimation Dub where the name was changed to Weapon of Choice.   I like this one as an interesting example of one that breaks from the usual formula and has Conan simply help Kogoro solve it on his own.

The Robber Hospitalization Case episode 91 on Crunchyroll, episode 09 of season 4 on Filmrise and episode 94 of the Funimation Dub where it was renamed Hospital Homicide.  This one sticks in my memory because of how it reminds me of Brun Notice.

The Kamen Yaiba Murder Case episode 119 on Crunchyroll, episode 13 of season 5 on Filmrise and episode 126 of the Funimation Dub where it was renamed The Masked Yaiba Murder Mystery.  As I already mentioned on this blog this is a good episode to recommend to western Superhero Comic Book Nerds and Tokusatsu/Power Rangers fans.

The Sealed Bathroom Murder Case episodes 121-122 on Crunchyroll, episodes 15-16 of season 5 on Filmrise and episodes 128-129 of the Funimation Dub where it was renamed The Forgotten Bond.  This is the best example of the show doing the Columbo format.

Update March 5th: Tubi has now added the Subbed versions for the 20 dubbed episodes and another 19 up to 1003, but they're uploaded as a separate show basically bug still under the title Case Closed.  It's also confirmed more will get Dubbed.

Thursday, February 9, 2023

Noir is my Favorite Anime again

I'd bumped it down from that position principally because I was concerned it was too atypical of my general tastes.  But it's not that Atypical, it is Bishoujo art style and almsot explicitly Yuri, and while Darker then average it's not the only Dark Anime I like, it's not even the darkest I give a 10/10.

The thing is there's no point in trying to make one single show the summary of everything I like about Anime, the shows I like are very diverse no matter how much I pretend there is some subtle ill-defined Otaku ideology behind all of them.  And that vague Otaku ideology I still see in Noir, it's simply teaching it in a different way.

The show is just too good, too perfectly executed while appealing to enough of my tastes that I can't demote it simply for not conforming to all of them.

It's a show that's constantly reminding me of other things I like, while being reminded of it when I watch those.  Girls with Guns as a genre seems to be making a come back lately with Lycoris Recoil and Akiba Maid Wars, Noir was arguably the original so it's perhaps more relevant then ever now.  But that's not the only new thing I had to appreciate about it in my most recent re-watch.

There are so many things I want to say about this show yet I don't feel qualified to say any of it.  It's subtle and it's blunt, it's realistic and yet also absurd, it has no typical Anime fanservice and yet one of the cleverest NTR scenes ever animated.

Even it's English Dub still holds up, maybe some of you are expecting any old ADV Dub with subject matter like this to be overly indulgent in the edgier inclinations of some of the people who worked there, but it's not, it only ever uses one swear word.  Three of the four leads are using voices very different from what you are likely to expect from them today, and the one who is very recognizable is still very good, it's a perfect voice that suits every character who has it.

It's now up on Crunchyroll and I was surprised to see that it's in 16:9, so yeah it felt like watching the show fresh in a way I never had before.  I recommend everyone give it a shot, it really is great.