All of my posts on this Blog are meant to be Conversation Starters. I never want to be the final word on any topic. I'm trying to put ideas out there that hopefully others more knowledgeable and skilled then me can expand on.
Tuesday, September 1, 2026
DC Stuff I watched in August 2026
Friday, May 22, 2026
Batman has never been The World’s Greatest Detective on The Big Screen.
Thursday, December 19, 2024
Batman is great because of his variety.
Friday, August 2, 2024
DC Animated projects I’ve seen recently.
Sunday, February 11, 2024
Screenwriters deserve more Credit
Wednesday, April 12, 2023
Batman 66 WAS Bad Actually (but not for the reason you think).
Monday, January 2, 2023
Batman v Batman v Batman
Monday, November 21, 2022
I'm now caught up on Titans
Sunday, November 20, 2022
Party like it's Ninteen Ninty Nine
Monday, October 10, 2022
Detective Conan is the Batman of Anime.
Wednesday, August 31, 2022
Lupin The Third and Detective Conan Crossovers
Friday, June 17, 2022
What movies I've seen recently.
Sunday, November 7, 2021
Mark Millar's Moonie denial
In JLA issue 27 cover date March 1999 written by Mark Millar, the Martian Manhunter disguises himself as a Japanese Woman and uses the name Rei Hino. Bruce Wayne immediately knew that was J'onn because he recognized that name as having something to do with Mars.
Sailor Moon fans immediately deduced that J'onn was naming himself after Sailor Mars, and apparently Batman was also familiar with Sailor Moon.
Thing is Mark Millar has denied that this was an intentional Sailor Moon reference, saying...
"I was told it translated loosely as POET OF MARS, which is what J'onn's occupation was back on his homeworld. It had zero to do with Sailor Moon."
But that explanation doesn't make sense. Rei Hino does NOT mean "poet of mars".
Hino means "of Fire", the Kanji for Fire in that name is also part of the Japanese name for the Planet Marts, Kasei which means "Fire Star" but is spoken differently in that word. So in context Hino is a fitting surname to give someone you're associating with Mars, but it's not on it's own inherently a reference to Mars.
Nor does Rei mean Poet, according to Wordhippo the Japanese words for Poet all have "jin" in them. The Wikipedia page for the name Rei lists many different Kanji and meanings for Rei, but none is Poet.
So either Mark Millar is lying, or someone lied to Mark Millar. Who told him this name translated that way, and why were they offering a translation of this name specifically?
Millar wrote this individual Issue, but it's actually still during the Run of Grant Morrison. There are things about Grant Morrison that make me suspect he would like a lot of Anime, including Sailor Moon. So is it possible the real culprit here is Grant Morrison?
If I described the premise of the Black Moon saga (the Manga version not the 90s Anime) to a bunch of DC Nerds but avoided like names and stuff, they'd probably say "that sounds like a Grant Morrison comic". But Naoko Takeuchi did that before it became Grant Morrison's thing.
Morrison's key theme for his JLA run was equating each JLA member with an Olympian deity. So it's easy to imagine he was researching lots of ways those deities were used in modern pop culture, especially stuff that can be considered Superhero stories.
Friday, July 23, 2021
I actually miss Episodic Television
I watched a YouTube video on Smallville recently, and one of the complaints about the show of course was that there was "soooo much filler". It's kinda funny coming back to Smallville discourse after spending years in the Anime Community where "Filler" has a mostly different meaning.
When I look back on Smallville comparing it to the modern state of Superhero TV shows, the "Filler" is exactly what I miss. To me what makes Clark Superman is how he deals with small things as much as the big things.
If you follow the discourse among actual DC and Marvel Comic Book readers, you'll notice one thing that has been lamented about the state of Superhero comics for well over a decade now is how everything is "written for the Trade" and thus you don't get simple short one off stories anymore, not in the main continuity at least.
Well Superhero based TV is finally catching up to the Comics in this regard. And while for now everyone is excited about the possibilities, I feel like the one person noticing that this is leading to exactly why so many of us Comic Book Nerds started preferring TV and Cartoons to the actual Comics in the first place.
Saying Smallville was good actually may be mildly controversial, but saying that about Batman The Animated Series is not. Michael Baily has lamented how since The Joker killed Robin and crippled Barbara Gordon in the late 80s you can't just tell one off Joker stories anymore, not in the main continuity, he became too big for that. In the 90s BTAS became the source for new short one off Joker stories. And it did the same for all of the villains.
The reason none of the modern attempts at creating new Batman villains have truly become Icons like the ones who've been around since at least the 70s is because those classic villains had who they are and what works about them defined by tons of short and simple one off villain of the week stories. Then later writers started trying to find ways to make them work in more Epic and long form stories with varying degrees of success. But now every new villain is introduced as the Big Bad of a huge status quo shaking event, and they may have worked great for that event, but attempts to bring them back just reveal their short comings.
It's not just the Superhero genre though. Perhaps with something like a High School Drama it's harder to easily tell the difference between something episodic and something trying to be a 20 hour movie. But I can still sense that I generally prefer the former to the latter.
For hour long live action TV shows my ideal is somewhere between purely episodic and every episode being a huge earth shattering plot development. I want there to be an overarching storyline in the background, but for most individual episodes to work as their own stand alone stories. That was how Buffy/Angel, Xena and Smallville operated back in the day. and it used to be that was also how most long running TV Anime worked.
Now it seems like if a new show did what I like it would be viewed as a step backwards. I look at how Netflix's Daredevil was praised from season 1 as a new evolution of the Superhero genre making everything that came before and contemporary with it look amateur in comparison. But all I see is how the potential for interesting one off stories with a Superhero who's also a Defense Attorney were squandered by the obsession with making a 13 hour Kingpin movie. Season 2 I liked more then most people in-spite of not doing what I prefer, then season 3 won back the season 1 people and I hated it.
And even with Anime what I like is becoming rarer, with Light Novel and Visual Novel adaptations dominating the market. And Manga meanwhile hasn't had the same history as Marvel and DC Comics, they were always "written for the trade" to some extent. So it's mostly original Anime, or Anime that diverted from the source material in ways purists hate like classic Sailor Moon and FMA that are structured the way I most prefer. The later of those mostly isn't allowed anymore, and even original Anime are often written for the Binge watcher even if it aired weekly since most Anime don't make their profits from the TV broadcast anyway.
I love plenty of shows that aren't structured this way, I'm simply sad that this kind of TV is dying out.
Friday, March 19, 2021
Justice League, Both Cuts are good movies
That’s my double Hot Take, each has their advantages and disadvantages.
I wasn’t expecting to have this reaction. I’ve always known I’m not as much of a Snyder Fanboy as I sometimes come off to others, but clearly I myself was overestimating our alignment. So much of what I liked about the Theatrical Cut that is not in the Snyder Cut I really assumed would be.
I’m quickly growing to have a similar relationship with Justice League as I do Superman II where my ideal hypothetical version of that movie combines elements of the Theatrical and Donner versions. However the differences in Aesthetic Style here make doing a Fan Edit not nearly as easy.
I can say that while the Theatrical Cut should have been longer, 4 hours I would not have tolerated for a movie theater viewing where I can’t pause it. No Superhero movie should in theaters be longer than The Ten Commandments. However like the LOTR Extended Editions home viewing is different. The same runtime as the Avengers movies would have been the ideal.
The best “superficial” praise I can give the Snyder Cut is that every scene or moment which is on paper the same in both versions is better executed here, better editing and cinematography and special effects and definitely a far more cohesive Musical Score. And a lot of the longer scenes, and other stuff one might say adds nothing to the “plot” and may therefore get criticized as padding actually helps the film’s Gravitas and Characterization.
As far as the actual story goes the chief improvement in the Snyder Cut is everything involving Cyborg and his Father and the characters connected to them completely cut from the theatrical, he is the heart of the film and who was most done dirty by the theatrical cut. Most of what I now dislike about the theatrical version are the alternate scenes with them.
However there is one more detail of the Theatrical Cut I would be completely adverse to including in an ideal hybrid cut and that is the Flash landing on Wonder Woman’s boobs gag. One of the few Anime clichés I’m glad I (usually) don’t have to worry about in a Hollywood movie.
The Flash is overall also done better by The Snyder Cut, but I also like everything with him in the Theatrical besides that one gag I just mentioned. However I don't consider major extra Flash scenes to be necessary.
Aquaman comes off about the same in both versions, which is good, he’s cool.
Steppenwolf I don’t care about either way. He is different but I really don’t care about his greater depth. As I said before in Super Team formation films I’m fine with the villain being just a plot device. The DeSaad and Darkseid scenes I enjoyed as a Nerd, but I don’t think what they add to the film really matters, they were there to set up future films that still might never get made, and Darkseid is the kind of character I feel should be ominously mentioned for years before he's ever even glimpsed.
However what I would most prefer to be gone are the Injustice inspired bad future visions, and I now want that gone from BvS too. I was hoping that storyline would be resolved by the end of this film. I don’t want more Evil Superman BS, that was supposed to be done away with once this film finished Clark’s Hero's Journey. It turns out Snyder was planning more than a Trilogy and that disappoints me.
The Theatrical version of Justice league for all it’s plot holes and imperfections is still a fun movie that gets most of the core characters right. And compared to The Snyder Cut is far better as a Superman movie, or a Batman movie and sure as hell a better sequel to Patty Jenkins Wonder Woman films.
The Theatrical Version despite having less than half as much Runtime feels like it has twice as much humanity. Patrick H Willems talked about how Whedon’s Avengers movies have more glimpses of the normal civilian population and their reactions to the Superheroes then the Russo films, and that same contrast exists here.
That Instagram video of the kids recording Superman at the beginning, that goon Batman uses to bait a Parademon, the Opening Credits sequence, having civilians around they need to protect during the big final battle, and other little moments right before cutting to the end credits. All of that adds a lot of humanity to the theatrical version that I missed here.
I want to talk briefly about the Mustache controversy of the theatrical version. People keep saying it's something you can’t not notice, except when I first saw it I hadn’t heard about any of this and I indeed didn’t notice it. That one particular screenshot people like to meme to me just looks weird because of Cavil’s facial expression, in a way lots of freeze frames in a film will.
I hate the inclusion of the Black Superman Suit. A lot of people think it's a requirement for a Superman returns from the Dead storyline, but this isn't a direct adaptation of Reign of The Supermen. I would have been fine with it if it was only temporary like in those Comics, but him having it in the closing shirt rip shot symbolizes what I’ve already complained about and feel betrayed by. I’m one of many who defended Snyder’s choices for Man of Steel and BvS on the grounds that it's Superman’s beginning. Instead The Snyder Cut has revealed that Darker Edgier Superman was the long term plan.
With Batman I’ve already praised that scene where he coaches Barry and how much I liked that. I also liked that Lois calming Superman down was Bruce’s plan, in the Theatrical Cut that’s the pay off to Barry’s future warning, in the Snyder Cut it only adds to that to set up a final pay off later. I also like when he says to Alfred that Clark is more Human than he is.
In the Snyder Cut Diana kills that British Terrorist, this isn’t exactly contradicted in the Theatrical but it's clear that’s something Whedon chose to cut because he knew it didn’t fit with how Jenkins’ Wonder Woman movie ended. A lot of people have been praising the moment with the little girl soon after saying “how could they cut that?” they aren’t looking at the context. There was no way to include that while still hiding that Snyder had filmed Wonder Woman killing someone. In addition to that I also don’t like her being so determined to decapitate Steppenwolf either.
I also miss all of the interactions between Bruce and Diana unique to the Theatrical Cut. I do not interpret them Romantically, Alfred is just being a naggy parent who wants grandkids. I like that they talked about Steve Trevor, something only briefly alluded to in the Snyder Cut. I like that Bruce is a dick in one scene but not going to Frank Miller levels. I like that he sees Diana as the one who should actually lead the team.
As stand alone works of art The Snyder Cut is more “Auteur”, but both were in truth collaborative projects. I appreciate both and I hope the Theatrical version is never buried and forgotten.
Friday, January 1, 2021
A New Batman movie is coming out this year, and I don't care
Only a few years ago I never would have thought that was possible.
The Dark Knight is still the most hyped any movie has ever made me, but Rises and BvS were also huge deals. Now this year is going to give us the first proper simple Batman movie since 2012, and first movie with Batman in the title since 2016. But it doesn’t feel like Batman has been absent the way he was between those films.
Some people feel the Superhero genre itself is going to die of oversaturation, but the Superhero genre is inherently diverse in what it can do in ways that I feel make that impossible. But Batman specifically has been overexposed.
Batman has been in an Animated movie every few months and been tied to multiple TV shows. And we’ve had Theatrically released films featuring Batman characters and lore. I'm not criticising any individual of those projects, of even the loosest definition of what can be considered a Batman movie the only ones I truly dislike are a couple of the Animated ones.
Disney has quickly done the same to Star Wars, a Star Wars movie is no longer an Event, instead it was an annual thing for a while.
And while DC has been giving all this attention to Batman, there still hasn’t been a Superman Animated series since the 90s.
Meanwhile I’ve gotten into Anime during this same time period, and while this may have been unthinkable to me in 2008, Batman arguably isn’t even my favorite Nerd Franchise anymore.
But in-spite of all that, I could have been excited for The Batman if they gave me the impression it would be a new different kind of Batman movie. As someone who has been one of the biggest Nolan Batman fanboys, I always wanted the next Batman franchise to not be more of that, to move beyond the Gritty Realism obsession. Instead it looks like Mat Reeves was inspired by one of those old 2009-2010 fan trailers of what a “Nolanized” Riddler would be like.
I don’t want a theatrical Batman movie that isn’t at all serious and has no “darkness” in it. But I want one that is maybe not literally unrealistic but still has a fantastical quality to it.
What am I excited for? As far as Hollywood movies go the final Jurassic World film, Godzilla vs Kong and The Suicide Squad are what I may check if we can go to theaters again at some point this year. For Anime we should finally get the Sailor Moon Eternal films, the end of Attack on Titan and the Dub of the final Heaven’s Feel film. That’s all I currently know to expect, with Anime what I often like the most a given year is what was totally unexpected.
Update March 28th: Great, my very first post of 2021 wound up being an inaccurate premise, The Batman has been delayed to 2022.
Wednesday, December 30, 2020
Just how much have I changed?
So I posted some thoughts on Wonder Woman 1984, I overall like the movie but had some issues. I'm not even at all surprised that other people's issues were the opposite of mine.
But what gets me is how often the criticism the movie is getting is frarmed as it being a "Richard Donner style" which allegedly can't work anymore. And it reminds me of what I (and others) used to say about Superman Returns, calling it the worst movie ever made. But WW84 isn't actually like the utterly boring Superman Returns? Is it????
I haven't actually watched that movie all the way through since 2006. But what I like about WW84 is tied to my tastes in Anime not some reversal of how I feel about "Cheesy" Superhero movies...... but none of the Anime I'm thinking of here I had seen yet in 2006, a good deal of it existed already, but I'd still only seen a handful of shows.
And as I was recalling what I was like as a mid to late 2000s Comic Book Nerd on IMDB message boards it all came rushing back to me, I used to be an Edge Lord. I used to be the type of Batman fan who wanted the legacy of Adam West and Joel Schumacher buried, and used Silver Age as a dirty word. It's true I was not one of those Robin and other sidekicks shouldn't exist people, but that's because I wanted the stories where The Joker kills Robin and cripples Batgirl. I got into DC Comics because of War Games and Identity Crisis and OMAC Project. And yes I even specifically wanted Superman stories to be darker then what Christopher Reeve ever gave us, more then once I was disappointed at Smallville not killing Chloe Sullivan off.
Even the beginning of my relationship with Anime (besides the literal kids shows I got into in the 90s) was Darker stuff, that I still call Noir my favorite Anime probably gives a bad impression of my current tastes. And after that it was the other Bee Train Shows, Witch Hunter Robin, Code Geass which has dark moments, Death Note, The Woman Called Fujiko Mine, Attack On Titan. The first Magical Girl Anime I watched to completion was Madoka Magica, then I saw Utena, then Rose of Versailles, then Le Caviler D'eon, then Gankutsuou.
I was never only into dark and edgy stuff, Pokémon for example was always somewhat of a balancing presence. In fact I've always been unashamed to admit to still liking the kids shows I watched as a kid. Plus I've always been a defender of Superman IV and Batman Forever. And there were always certain limits, I always found the first issues of Allstar Batman and Robin offensive, and the way season 8 of Smallville ended always bugged me. I've always preferred a happy ending and I oddly valued Batman's no kill rule more then then I do now. And I haven't lost the ablity to appreciate Dark stuff, I still like what I liked then and get crap for defending Zack Snyder.
But something has changed. I've on this blog attempted to summarize the timeline of my descent into Anime before. But I'd been trying to think of it as me simply being late to finding what I secretly wanted all along. However the me who was super into every shocking thing DC was doing in 2005 would never have predicted I'd wind up defending the idea of having an epic super heroic battle to save the universe where no one dies.
When I watched Madoka and Utena for the first time, it was while the Sailor Moon revival was starting in 2014. Sailor Moon had an on and off again presence in my life, but at that point I still hadn't seen most of the season finales, and I considered S the best season because it was seemingly the darkest. (Now my Sailor Moon rankings are greatly different.) Remember what I said about being concerned some westerners might learn the wrong lessons from Sailor Moon? well I'm remembering that that would probably have been me if I'd gotten to write a Sailor Moon knock off back in the 2000s.
Before the Sailor Moon revival kicked off, earlier in 2014, certain western TV shows I was watching had disillusioned me by crossing those lines I always had. And the one I was starting to love more then ever before was in one of it's darkest hours. So I think I was primed to appreciate Sailor Moon in a way I hadn't before, even though I wasn't connecting these things at the time.
2015 helped shape my modern sense of humor between how much I enjoyed the early episodes of Gotham and my at some point getting into Engaged to The Unidentified. Meanwhile I started watching more Magical Girl shows too.
But 2016 was the major turning point. My relationship with Batman V Superman is complicated, I wanted it to be the best thing ever, but after it came out I initially praised it but believe it or not there was a period where I was pretty down on it. And that's when I watched Yuri Yuri and Lucky Star and began my relationship with slice of life Anime, they picked me back up. And then I watched Haruhi to help me further appreciate Lucky Star, and then slowly but surely got into things like Fate/ and Nanoha and Steins;Gate.
All this did kind of coincide with some of the changes in my Theology and Politics, my becoming a Communist and a Universal Salvation proponent.
And then following seasonal Anime over the course of 2017 and 2018 further radicalized me.
So the question is, would I suddenly like Superman Returns if I rewatched it now? I don't know, I still feel like it's largely boring in a way WW84 definitely is not. But I guess I should give it a try some time soon.
However I now consider the worst movie ever made to be End of Evangelion.
Sunday, October 25, 2020
I now have the Batman Death in The Family BluRay.
I first did exactly one route, I was trying to get the happiest ending possible so those who already know everything can probably guess what ending that led me to.
My plan was to do one route at a time, but I honestly don’t feel like I even got a full movie experience out of only one route and that isn’t good, the total runtime of all the routes is 3 hours, so I felt each route should have no trouble being as satisfying as one standard 70 minute movie.
There are a total of 7 endings the opening said, but I have a sneaking suspicion everything after the first choice I made leads to the same outcome.
Then I watched the rest of it and found one of my initial assumptions was the opposite of correct.
It was a pretty fun experience, the closest thing I've done so far to playing a Visual Novel. If you liked the Under The Red Hood animated movie from 2010 you'll probably enjoy this as a companion piece. But I'm not sure it's worth the full price, maybe wait to you cna get it used for a little cheaper.
Tuesday, August 4, 2020
I think more Sailor Moon fans need to check out other Magical Girl Warrior Anime
I was always agaisnt that mentality, and today most major voices in the internet Western Comic Book Nerd community reject that as really narrow minded and know that you're really not much of a Batman fan at all if you completely reject such a large portion of what the Batman mythos are.
As someone who remembers all of that while currently being a Millennial Otaku in an era where our current Nostalgia cycle has brought a number of old 90s Anime back into public conciseness. I feel like the Anime equivalent of that is the prevalence of Sailor Moon fans who wish Tuxedo Mask didn't exist, that position is nearly unanimous among the guests on the Sailor Business podcast.
I actually have more sympathy for this position even though it's less supportable (Tuxedo Mask was there from issue #1 unlike Robin) because my own preferences for female lead Anime and Superhero stories are often similar, I'm a Yuri Fanatic who likes watching Anime where it's possible to pretend males don't even exist in that fictional world. But when it comes to Sailor Moon my position is Mamoru/Darrien is just as essential as Lois Lane is to Superman, or Mary Jane to Spiderman, or Iris West to Barry Allen, or Sif to Thor.
Now talking about Tuxedo Mask is complicated by how the 90s Anime handled him very differently. This may shock some people to learn, but there are Sailor Moon Manga purists who hate everything about the 90s Anime, but this subject may often be where they'd start their rants. He's in High School not Collage in the Manga (and in Japan the age difference between middle school and high school is smaller then it is here, they are in fact only 2-3 years apart) Mamoru isn't constantly a jerk to her early on, Usagi isn't nearly as childish and Tuxedo Mask actually contributes more.
That element also fits the Robin comparison, the rejection of Robin was partly from how for a long time the mainstream public perception of Robin was mostly Burt Ward and Chris O'Donnell. And indeed I think the best western Comic Book analogy for those Manga purists who hate the Anime are people who still hate the Adam West and Shumacker takes on Batman. Those of us who have read Robin(s) as written by for example Chuck Dixon or Marv Wolfman know the concept can be taken seriously.
However some people don't like Mamoru even in the Manga, or heck some even find him worse in the Manga. These people simply hate the idea of tuning in to a show about a Superheroine (or "Female Superhero" as the CW's Supergirl pilot kept insisting on saying) where she is also constantly being rescued. Now most of those "rescues" range from cheer-leading her to adding a little minor assist like female love interests of male superhero also frequently get to contribute, and the final climax of the original story-line is her saving him. But these fans want male love interests to contribute 0% to their Superheroine stories.
Thing is that apparent contradiction is not a bug but a feature, it is kind of the entire premise of Sailor Moon. Film Flux did a video on the Sailor Moon Manga that helped me to clarify this. Superhero stories are at their core wish fulfillment fantasies, and like it or not many young girls fantasize both about being a Superhero and being a Damsel rescued by a handsome Prince (and some young boys have the same fantasies). While most Mangaka might have written two completely separate stories to express those fantasies Naoko Takeuchi said Frak It and did both simultaneously, she wrote a story where an average Japanese school girl gets to be both Snow White and Wonder Woman at the same time. The premise of Sailor Moon is foundationally about having your cake and eating it too.
Now you don't have to also be into that, my point is that this Prince Charming isn't something that's part of the story because of executive meddling. (If anything it's having other Girls helping her that was, Takeuchi's original vision was a solo Super-heroine, it was Toei that wanted a team so they could sell more toys.) And so if you fundamentally don't like that, you kind of don't like the premise of Sailor Moon.
The reason why in America Sailor Moon is popular with many people who actually share only half of Takeuchi's fantasy is because on mid 90s American television she was the only Superheroine we had to choose from at all.
Thing is it's now possible for Americans to watch almost any Anime they want to, and the sub-genre Sailor Moon spawned has evolved to provide plenty of shows that can better provide what these Sailor Moon fans actually want. I think there are plenty of people who might actually like the rest of the genre more but have still only seen Sailor Moon because they've never searched for Anime beyond what airs on Toonami, or because they're assuming them to be Sailor Moon knock offs with no actual creativity. But the truth is even the ones most similar to Sailor Moon are still just as distinct as Green Arrow is from Batman.
All or at least most Pretty Cure seasons have no Tuxedo Mask analogue, a few have Het love interests who are civilians, like Peter Parker crushing on Liz Allan or Mary Jane in the Raimi films, but most don't even have that. Madoka Magica and Yuki Yuna Is A Hero and Symphogear provide no Het romance for the main character at all. Pretty Sammy and Nanoha also work, and Prisma Illya is....... not a good one to start with.
Corrector Yui doesn't seem to have a Tuxedo Mask figure from what I've seen so far, on Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne there is one kinda but he's a rival thief. On Saint Tail the love interest is the guy trying to catch her, so it's like Batman and Catwoman but if Catwoman was stealing things because God wanted her to do it???? I'm still not sure what that show's premise actually is. In Galaxy Fraulein Yuna there is a Tuxedo Mask but she's a woman, so those of you who enjoy having your sexuality confused by the Takerazuka style Mamoru in the new Musicals might enjoy that.
Even Wedding Peach is distinct on this issue since the person who could be called the Tuxedo Mask of the show is not the title character's love interest.
So I'm hoping once these Sailor Moon fans can get their no Tuxedo Mask Magical Girl fix elsewhere they can be open to appreciating Mamoru once they've seem him portrayed correctly on Crystal( just make sure you're watching the BluRay rips) or even the Live Action show PGSM. I also still recommend that Sailor Moon Fan Film from 2016.
Wednesday, July 8, 2020
The Killing Joke is about how The Joker is wrong
The Joker is proven wrong in more ways then one, the big one is that Gordon was not broken, and it's kind of funny how confidently The Joker assumed he was. However The Joker's "one bad day" speech is also not really supported by the flashback sequences.
When it comes to The Killing Joke as a Joker origin story people like to focus on the "multiple choice" quote giving us permission to not take the flashbacks as definitively canon. But even if we take them at face value, they do NOT vindicate The Joker's "one bad day" thesis. That person's life was already miserable before that day came along and he was already demonstrated to be unstable. That day was a tipping point but he was in need of help even if that day had never happened.
When someone says that Batman is a psychopath in The Killing Joke I go "what were you reading?" The Joker expresses the opinion Batman is just like him, but the story is all about The Joker being wrong.
I partly blame this on that animated movie from 2016. There is a meme going around that only the tacked on Batgirl story is bad but once it becomes a direct adaptation it is great. That is false, Hbomberguy did a video on the subtle ways that the movie is a pale imitation of what the comic drew. But I want to focus on one specific scene they didn't cover.
When Batman almost falls into the pit with the big sharp spikes at the bottom, the Animated movie has him intentionally throw a random goon down into it, making him a killer. Now I knew even from having not read the comic recently that that must be wrong, but I kind of assumed that the comic at least had a goon fall into the spikes and that's where it came from. But no, I just reread the comic before writing this post after watching the Video Essay I'm responding to, and there is no goon in that scene at all, the spikes just look like they might have blood on them already.
I'm not as dead set against letting Batman kill in adaptations as some people are, I'm fine with how both Tim Burton and Zack Snyder handled it. However this was a direct adaptation of a specific story where Batman not killing was specifically part of that story's framework.
The interpretation that Batman kills The Joker at the end was something proposed in only the last few years, but this video essay went and stated it as fact claiming you have to ignore the final page to make it "canon" to an ongoing continuity. The notion that the story was not originally meant to be in continuity is also false, the reason why we have the "cripple the b!tch" quote is because Moore had to ask permission to cripple Barbara Gordon, and then before the novel was published in the same month DC released a Batgirl Special that gave Batgirl a proper send off (the movie should have just adapted that for the Batgirl story instead of letting Tim indulge in his weird shipping).
Guess what, I'm not against interpreting Batman to have killed The Joker is a beloved late 80s classic that allows us any excuse to say he didn't. Batman killed The Joker in The Dark Knight Returns, that is proven by following how the dialogue balloons' colors changed. That interpretation is also controversial, but it's based on the text in a way that's pretty irrefutable once you've noticed it. Saying he killed The Joker in The Killing Joke undermines what that story was entirely about.
I say this as someone who considers the story overrated. And no it's not because I'm upset with it's treatment of Barbara on Feminsit grounds. Overrated doesn't mean bad, it's overrated compared to other Alan Moore Batman stories (more people need to read Mortal Clay, that story is beautiful), and it's overrated compared to some more modern usually not Comics works that repeat similar themes and ideas. The Dark Knight is a better take on a story where The Joker has the same goal, and 2019's Joker is a better elaboration on what the flashbacks were trying to do.
Basically people go "the guy who wrote Watchmen, must be another deconstruction". The truth is every good Deconstruction is written by people who also know how to play that genre straight. Watchmen is Moore's only Deconstruction, every other hero he wrote is sometimes maybe flawed but still a genuine hero.