All of my posts on this Blog are meant to be Conversation Starters. I never want to be the final word on any topic. I'm trying to put ideas out there that hopefully others more knowledgeable and skilled then me can expand on.
Wednesday, May 13, 2026
Worldbuilding doesn't and shouldn't matter.
Tuesday, March 10, 2026
Sub Eras of The Isekai Era
Saturday, March 7, 2026
Ancient World Fantasy
Wednesday, February 4, 2026
BookTuber reviewing classic Fantasy Novels.
Monday, December 8, 2025
Fantasy and Science Fiction
Sunday, November 9, 2025
A Fantasy World needs to feel Alive in order for me to become invested in it.
Thursday, October 2, 2025
Low Church Fantasy
Monday, October 14, 2024
Suppose a Kid from the Last Dungeon Boonies Moved to a Starter Town?
Sunday, February 4, 2024
Baby Yoda and Elves
Thursday, January 18, 2024
Environmentalist Allegories in Sci-Fi and Fantasy have a common recurring problem
Thursday, January 11, 2024
Dark Elves in Anime are nothing like The Drow
Sunday, July 2, 2023
JRPGs as a concept are an American Misconception.
Monday, June 26, 2023
Magic Academy Light Novels/Anime owe nothing to Harry Potter.
Wednesday, June 14, 2023
Princesses can outrank Queens
Sunday, May 1, 2022
Stoicism vs Gnosticism in Star Wars
These same people will mention how The Force as a concept drew on ideas from Eastern Mysticism, the Yin-Yang of Taoism and hints of Shintoism Lucas may have picked up on in all those Japanese Samurai films he watched, for example how he defines The Dark Side as being an infection or virus fits Kegare better then it does Taoism. But they failed to do their homework on all of that, if they did they’d know this idea that factoring anything biological into explaining how The Force works somehow makes it less Spiritual couldn’t be any more alien to Taoist or Shinto ways of thinking, to them Biology is Spiritual and Spirituality is Biological.
I myself have often been one of those who keeps saying Star Wars is Fantasy not Sci-Fi. But I’ve come to realize that the Anti-Midichlorians mentality that has always annoyed me is a product of the exact same limited western mindset that lies behind making a hard distinction between Sci-Fi and Fantasy. Now it is still useful to point out how core aspects of Star Wars’ narrative and thematic intentions are more similar to LOTR than Star Trek. However sometimes even Star Trek Metaphysics are rather Spiritual and even Tolkien can be more scientific than you might expect.
So ScreenRant has an article called 15 quotes about The Force that when quoting Obi-Wan's main Force exposition in A New Hope and Yoda’s in Empire actually has the gall to claim The Midichlorian reveal “retconned” them, but fortunately it quotes them directly allowing me to refresh my memory. Both quotes talk about The Force being generated by Living Things, not only is that compatible with the Midichlorian reveal but it pretty much proves something like that was how it worked all along.
Rick Worley has a video called What are The Whills that goes in depth into this aspect of Star Wars lore, but if you want a shorter cliff notes version on just one aspect of it watch MrSundayMovies video on Symbiants. However I myself am a White American Christian whose understanding of Japanese spirituality comes mostly from all the Anime I watch. So I have no desire to claim to be some great expert on Eastern Mysticism. Instead this post shall focus on the implication in what I said at the start that the West didn’t always have this problem, at least not so nearly universally. [Update: I really regret recommending this video now that Worley has gone full Terf.]
Star Wars fans getting so offended by the Midichlorians, insisting The Force is no longer something spiritual if you’ve also made it Biological or Physical or “Carnal”, wreaks of Gnosticism to me. It reminds me of when I watched this YouTube video from a Full Preterist responding to the accusation that their de Physicalizing of The Resurrection makes them Gnostic, he said he’s not Gnostic because he doesn’t believe the Physical world is fundamentally totally evil, thing is not all ancient Gnostics necessarily exactly believed that either, this video went on to talk about his distinguishing between the Spiritual and the Carnal. And then in the comments section I saw someone express how they found it so disturbing that Futurists (and by implication also Partial Preterists) want the Resurrection to be Carnal, they saw it as a rejection of Spirituality that so many Christians have an attachment their fleshy carnal bodies, they think Christians should want to "Let Go" of them.
Now Star Wars has been accused of being Gnostic. Ryan Reeves in one of his videos (I don’t remember which one) references a quote from Yoda in Empire Strikes Back where he says “Luminous being we are, not this crude matter” and yeah that sounds pretty Gnostic out of context, like how some quotes from Paul and the Fourth Gospel are taken out of context to make them sound Gnostic. But even the immediate context of Yoda’s fuller quote undermines that Gnostic interpretation, much less how utterly Anti-Gnostic the Midichlroian reveal is. Perhaps this quote wouldn’t have been so easy to misconstrue if only a “just” had been added, I do consider the OT not as precisely and carefully well written as the PT.
In April I made a post about Gnosticism in Anime where I also brought up Stoicism in the context of Final Fantasy VII. I talk about this stuff more on my main Theology Blog, in posts about the Pagan Greek Origins of Puritan Sexuality and Stoicism in Early Christianity. It is my view that Gnosticism is Pythagoreanism and Platonism taken to their logical extreme, and that New Testament Theology, if you want to compare it to any pre-existing School of Greek Philosophy, was closest to Stoicism. Many are surprised to learn this, but during the first century proper Platonism was a minority position, Plato’s influence was felt in all schools to an extent, but among Greek Philosophers who believed in mysticism at all, Stoicism was the dominant perspective. Though it was a form of Stoicism in some ways detached from the founding principles of Zeno.
But one of the core differences between Christianity and Stoicism is that Stoicism has no Resurrection, instead the Stoic view of the afterlife was the individual Soul eventually fading back into the World Soul, as well as a belief in endless cycles of destruction and rebirth. This is basically the After Life view of Star Wars as expressed by Yoda to Anakin in Episode III and further delved into in those season 6 Clone Wars episodes, the Personal Force equating to the Individual Soul and the Cosmic Force equating to the World Soul.
It is the cyclical aspect that is key to what makes Stoicism similar to Eastern Mysticism. When I was watching the Netflix Anime film Bubble on April 28th with this post both above and below this paragraph mostly already written, I was reminded of all of it. It uses the modern Big Bang Theory based scientific understanding of the Universe to evangelize this cyclical mysticism
In Stoicism the word Pneuma (which is the Greek word translated Spirit) was NOT a word for something intangible like Plato’s world of forms, Pneuma is Hyper Corporeal rather than non Corporeal. And their sense of the word is what was dominant in the first century. And when you really dig into it, I feel it can very much be compared to both the Lifestream in Final Fantasy VII and The Force in Star Wars.
There is a YouTube channel whose avatar is a low quality picture of Rika Furude from Higurashi and whose username is simply a Period. This mysterious YouTube channel has a video called The Foundations of Star Wars, this video digs into the moral philosophy of Star Wars and what the channel finds horribly wrong with it. This Moral Philosophy is basically the same as that later Roman Stoicism I spoke of, Stoicism after allowing itself to draw too much influence from Plato especially The Laws. And I think the fact that neither this YouTuber or George Lucas himself can find a way to make the existence of the Force compatible with a more pro pleasure pro attachment morality is tied to just how lost and forgotten the original Stoic Morality has become. Zeno was a Free Love Hippie who even defended Incest, he did not intend to create a Philosophy that would become synonymous with being an unemotional Vulcan. Likewise Diogenes and the original Cynics would hate the connotations that word now has.
Zeldom has a series of videos on The Legend of Zelda’s Force which are interesting. But perhaps the Sci-Fi/Fantasy media that truly is Zeno’s Stoicism in contrast to Star Wars’ Roman Stoicism would be the Magical Girl genre of Anime.
Thursday, April 21, 2022
Gnosticism in Anime and Video Games
Wednesday, January 12, 2022
Fantasy stories are better with a focused narrative.
Saturday, April 17, 2021
Science Fiction is a Sub Genre of Fantasy
In the past I have been very pedantic about drawing a hard line between Fantasy and Science Fiction, especially in regards to Star Wars which I am not alone in considering Fantasy not Sci-Fi.
However my escalating indulgence in Anime over the last 5 years has increased my appreciation for how blurry the line can be. But more importantly looking at the history of the Genre has made me realize that ALL Science Fiction is Fantasy but not all Fantasy is Science Fiction.
People Fantasize about many things, our more traditional definition of what a Fantasy story or world is comes from Fantasies about the Past. Urban Fantasy is our fantasies about those elements of the mythic past surviving into the modern world just out of sight. Fantasy's overlap with Horror is tied to our fantasies about what scares us.
But we also fantasize about the Future, and outer space, or alternate routes history could have taken. We fantasize about what technology could achieve in the future as it continues to advance, or perhaps has secretly achieved already but is being kept secret by the government or other cabal of elites. Or could have achieved long ago if certain mistakes were averted. We also fantasize about finding things Scientists speculate could exist but that we haven't found yet.
When you look at the history of what's called Proto-Science Fiction, Sci-Fi tropes and ideas in works that predate the birth of Science Fiction as a distinct genre. You'll notice that it's all Fantasy, the exact same works of the Ancient-Medieval past modern Fantasy authors look to for inspiration is exactly where the founders of Science Fiction drew their inspiration. But when directly adapted today they are classified as just Fantasy not Sci-Fi.
From the Mahabharata & Ramayana, to a Second Century Greek novelist seeking to Parody the Odyssey, to the 1001 Arabian Knights to Japanese Folk Tales to 18th and 19th Century Gothic Romances.
Mary Shelly's Frankenstein is sometimes called the first Sci-Fi novel. But the thing that surprises people reading the original book after entering it with assumptions driven by a century of Cinematic Adaptations, is just how Unscientific it actually is, the full title is referencing a Greek myth after all. The 2nd and 3rd editions actually try to make it more Scientific, the reference to Galvanism for example was not in the original 1817 edition, the only basis in the Book for the trope of the Monster having anything to do with Electricity is a Greedo Shot First/Riddles In The Dark style retcon. Science is only discussed at all in the book because of the Rationalism of those at Ingolstadt shutting down Victor's ideas. Victor's actual inspirations come from late Medieval and Renaissance era Alchemists, Sorcerers and Magicians, and one of the author's inspirations may have been Conrad Dipple.
In a way this makes the development of Science Fiction not unlike the development of Science itself. Chemistry emerged out of Alchemy, Francis Bacon arguably defined the modern "Scientific Method" but he was also an occultist, a student of John Dee. Isaac Newton believed the mystical symbolism of the design of Solomon's Temple could somehow unlock the secrets of the Universe.
Whether or not Technology can be considered a form of Magick kind of depends on how you define Magick. One definition used by some Occultists is that it's the manipulation of the energies that exist in nature.
That's why it makes sense that the roles played by Mages in RPGs are taken over by Scientists in more Science based adventures. White Mages become Medics and Black Mages become Mad Scientists.
Jules Verne was also pretty open about how Genre wise most of his major works were attempts to create modern Odysseys.