Anime has always been Mainstream Actually

I've been struggling to explain why NO Anime isn't Mainstream now without unintentionally sounding like I'm saying Battle Shonen and Ghibli films don't count as Anime.  

But as I was watching a recent video from a YouTube channel called RoyaltyIsHere I had an epiphany.

If all the examples of unambiguously Mainstream Anime you can cite are still 90% Battle Shonen and Ghibli films or stuff like that, then you aren't referring to anything that's changed from 15 years ago.  Dragon Ball was Mainstream in America already 15 years ago, it was 16 years ago that they made a Hollywood Live Action film out of it.  

It was over 25 years ago I was in Middle School during DBZ’s original Toonami Broadcast and guess what, liking DBZ was cool and hip at the Middle School I went to, no one was bullied because they liked DBZ or Pokémon.  I was weird because I also liked Sailor Moon while being at the time Male, I didn’t get bullied for it because I wasn’t brave enough to be open about that back then, I was bullied simply for looking like a stereotypical Nerd.  But for Girls Sailor Moon was just as mainstream, and plenty of guys who weren't cowards like I was.

The only thing that's different now is that the amount of Battle Shonen that exists with official English Localizations has increased.  We now get all the big currently airing Battle Shonen soon after they air in Japan.  Imagine if when we got DBZ in the 90s we also got every other Battle Shonen DBZ was competing with as it aired in Japan at the same time?

So the people who think Anime is mainstream in a way it wasn't before are misremembering the past by cramming everything together.  They’re pretending there was a past when DBZ and Naruto were uncool so they can pretend how cool they are now represents some kind of progress, but it doesn’t.

If Battle Shonen seems even more mainstream now it’s an increase in popularity that has been perfectly parallel to Superhero Comics and Star Wars.  To some extent they have been Mainstream as long as they have been part of American Culture at all.  But you will get called a Nerd for being particularly obsessed, both back then and now.

Same with Ghibli films, they've been getting American Theatrical Releases distributed by friggin Disney since 2000.  Stephen Spielberg cited Castle of Cagliostro as an influence on the Indiana Jones films. Oh that’s right, how could I forget one of the biggest Hollywood film franchises of the 1999-2003 era was openly inspired by Anime, The Matrix.  Akira also gets refenced all the time.

And even more genuinely Niche Anime making somewhat of an impact on Pop Culture is nothing new, remember Kite inspired a Gwen Stefani Music Video.

However, the extent to which liking “Moe” Anime will get you suspected of being a potential Pedophile has if anything only gotten worse as Pedojacketing people for clout has only become even more trendy.

As I said before VTubers and Luce only represent an increased vague familiarity with the Anime style but not what it truly represents. The only VTubers who at all seem to me like they actually like Anime beyond the most surface level are the ones at Phase Connect and a handful of Independent VTubers like Shondo.  The least Mainstream VTubers. 

I’ve talked before about the distinction between how NTR and Western Cuckolding Erotica usually goes.  Well that exposes why so many Erotic ASMRs with Anime Style Images are still driven by western Porn Logic, their takes on Cuckolding are purely western.   And I don’t particularly mind since as a Femdom fan that is more to my general preferences.  But since no NTR Hentai has ever gotten an English Dub I would like to hear English VAs perform a true NTR scenario for a change. 

But Femdom itself is different in Doujinshi than it is in Western Porn.  Western Femdom feels dominated by what I call Pseudo-Femdom, they’re about “Weak” men being emasculated by High School Mean Girls in a world who’s internal logic is still solidly Misogynist.  If you want Femdom stories that actually feel like an ideological threat to the Patriarchy, I advise checking out Doujins like Eaten Up By The Bookworm Girl, Invited to The Girl’s Dormitory, Sweet and Sour, and IMAIZUMI BRINGS ALL THE GYARUS TO HIS HOUSE. And that’s without even getting into the wholesome Feminization stories that I’m unsure whether to classify as Het or Yuri.  So I also wish English Language ASMR VAs would try drawing inspiration from stories like those instead of just putting an Anime Style avatar over Audios that sound like they could have been on any normie Femdom site 20 years ago. 

The ASMR community is good at recreating the Yandere appeal, I give them credit there. But that’s about it. 

The point of this post is, Mainstream Anime has always been Mainstream, but true Otaku Culture is not and never will be.